I buy more than I use, and I forget those I buy
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Anders Wall
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dzilizzi
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This is something I have been trying to work on. But there is just too much. Can't figure out an easy way to do it. Though if everything is on an iLok, they allow you to download a csv file of all your licenses. That will open in Excel. It's a start.
Some of us would make lousy therapists, lol.
Offering personal perspectives and ideas are only useful insofar as the other party is open, or has a similar measure of resolve, or is similarly wired to think in a certain way. “Just only buy what you need,” doesn’t come close to addressing a root cause for why some of us feel a certain rush to sell a body part for a sample library.
I actually think the many, many inquiries and threads that get started are about people wanting to be spared, or have someone else divine on their behalf whether or not a gamble will pay off. Moreover, there is an innate selfishness that actually thrives here - as it does in human nature itself - where the inquiries surrounding a new purchase are hoping someone else will take the fall first, and report back early.
Hence, my pseudo-serious suggestion to break this down to the barest expectations, which is to continue to share strategies, yes, but set a three month or six month goal where you know others are reminding each other of the same goal. Not unlike when I trained to run a marathon, and the team that ran at my pace was often the very thing that kept each of us focused on achieving that goal.
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So beginning today, Saturday, June 8, 2019, I am announcing a personal moratorium on purchasing any sample libraries for the next three months, until Sunday, September 8, 2019. At that time, I may treat myself to something special, but not until such date arrives. I invite others to join me, either publicly so stating, or via a PM. Free libraries are exempt.
If today is not a good time for you to join me, then consider beginning sometime within the next two weeks, and I will extend my moratorium, accordingly - in solidarity.
In saying this, I know what has been teased, promoted, and that which tempts me already will not abate, just as I also know the wealth of options I currently use. Where my “needs” and “wants” are often confused, I hope to also clarify such objectives over the course of the next three months, during which time I endeavor to also complete the personal ballet project I have been working on, with the tools I currently have at my disposal.
If one begins, but feels they cannot continue the three-month journey, there will be no judgement. If one feels an even shorter term goal is more attainable, hang out during the three months and consider yourself supported, nevertheless. Three months is arbitrary, for the most part, where any personal goal of abstaining is what matters most.
So help us.
EDIT: I forgot to add: "Musicians helping Musicians."
Offering personal perspectives and ideas are only useful insofar as the other party is open, or has a similar measure of resolve, or is similarly wired to think in a certain way. “Just only buy what you need,” doesn’t come close to addressing a root cause for why some of us feel a certain rush to sell a body part for a sample library.
I actually think the many, many inquiries and threads that get started are about people wanting to be spared, or have someone else divine on their behalf whether or not a gamble will pay off. Moreover, there is an innate selfishness that actually thrives here - as it does in human nature itself - where the inquiries surrounding a new purchase are hoping someone else will take the fall first, and report back early.
Hence, my pseudo-serious suggestion to break this down to the barest expectations, which is to continue to share strategies, yes, but set a three month or six month goal where you know others are reminding each other of the same goal. Not unlike when I trained to run a marathon, and the team that ran at my pace was often the very thing that kept each of us focused on achieving that goal.
***
So beginning today, Saturday, June 8, 2019, I am announcing a personal moratorium on purchasing any sample libraries for the next three months, until Sunday, September 8, 2019. At that time, I may treat myself to something special, but not until such date arrives. I invite others to join me, either publicly so stating, or via a PM. Free libraries are exempt.
If today is not a good time for you to join me, then consider beginning sometime within the next two weeks, and I will extend my moratorium, accordingly - in solidarity.
In saying this, I know what has been teased, promoted, and that which tempts me already will not abate, just as I also know the wealth of options I currently use. Where my “needs” and “wants” are often confused, I hope to also clarify such objectives over the course of the next three months, during which time I endeavor to also complete the personal ballet project I have been working on, with the tools I currently have at my disposal.
If one begins, but feels they cannot continue the three-month journey, there will be no judgement. If one feels an even shorter term goal is more attainable, hang out during the three months and consider yourself supported, nevertheless. Three months is arbitrary, for the most part, where any personal goal of abstaining is what matters most.
So help us.
EDIT: I forgot to add: "Musicians helping Musicians."
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Robo Rivard
Senior Member
"If the rape of your credit card is inevitable; download the library and enjoy it".
Michel Simons
Senior Member
Help....
stonzthro
Senior Member
Patch manager and the Library are your new best friends. Check it out! Takes me 3 minutes to build a template (well, I have one that is just routing and such that I use before I get started) and just a few seconds to add something later on when I need it. No more need for cumbersome templates and slaves; and to stay on topic, I know exactly what I have. Hmm - do I need another flute? Let me check... nah, I'm good.
InLight-Tone
Senior Member
I'm following your lead, fairly new to Mac/Logic but I like how you think and mirrors my experiences with other DAW's & Windows, namely Cubase, Studio One, & Live...Thanks!Patch manager and the Library are your new best friends. Check it out! Takes me 3 minutes to build a template (well, I have one that is just routing and such that I use before I get started) and just a few seconds to add something later on when I need it. No more need for cumbersome templates and slaves; and to stay on topic, I know exactly what I have. Hmm - do I need another flute? Let me check... nah, I'm good.
NekujaK
Atomic batteries to power! Turbines to speed!
I'll share my own personal insights in the hopes that it might help take away some of the stress and hand-wringing associated with GAS...
I used to constantly fret about obsessively buying plugins and would get overwhelmed by the sheer number of choices I had accumulated. But I'm finally at peace with all of it after coming to some simple conclusions:
1. Quite honestly, if I wasn't buying plugins, it would be something else. There's usually one primary interest in my life that occupies most of waking thoughts, and that's where I funnel my money. When I was into video production, it was camera gear and effects plugins. When I was into cars, it was accessories and tools. When I was in a rock band, it was guitars... oh so many guitars. When I was into golf, it was clubs, lessons, and golf fees. When I was into video games, it was... well video games. When I got out of college, I frequented poker rooms several nights a week. And so on... Provided I have the funds, it's always something. And even when I've been cash poor, I still somehow find a way to siphon off a little money to feed my current "habit".
So once I learned to be okay with my spending habits, what to do with all these plugins?
2. I accepted the fact that I'm simply never going to use every single plugin and library I own. For the longest time I stressed about making sure I got my money's worth out of every plugin, which created needless pressure and stress, and often led to creative paralysis. Once I arrived at #1 above, I realized that some plugins I bought simply because I enjoyed the research, the acquisition, the collecting. And now at least, if the need arises, I have the option of one day delving into a new library, but in the meantime, it's perfectly okay to just stick with what I know works.
Which brings me to the next point...
3. Sort of like creating a starting lineup in baseball, I established my core music production libraries and plugins, and accepted that these would form the baseline sound of my studio and music. When the need arises, I'll consider a new rookie plugin, and if it's absolutely phenomenal, I'll work it into the starting lineup. But my core lineup always gets the job done, and most importantly, I'm intimately familiar with this palette of tools, which enables me to work quickly and confidently.
So in conclusion, I'm continuing to buy libraries and plugins (as long as I can afford to) without guilt or regret, knowing full well that I'll realistically only ever use a fraction of my new acqusitions. And that's okay, because I have a core set of music creation and production tools that I'm intimately familiar with and continue to serve me well.
Enjoy what you enjoy, and go make music!
I used to constantly fret about obsessively buying plugins and would get overwhelmed by the sheer number of choices I had accumulated. But I'm finally at peace with all of it after coming to some simple conclusions:
1. Quite honestly, if I wasn't buying plugins, it would be something else. There's usually one primary interest in my life that occupies most of waking thoughts, and that's where I funnel my money. When I was into video production, it was camera gear and effects plugins. When I was into cars, it was accessories and tools. When I was in a rock band, it was guitars... oh so many guitars. When I was into golf, it was clubs, lessons, and golf fees. When I was into video games, it was... well video games. When I got out of college, I frequented poker rooms several nights a week. And so on... Provided I have the funds, it's always something. And even when I've been cash poor, I still somehow find a way to siphon off a little money to feed my current "habit".
So once I learned to be okay with my spending habits, what to do with all these plugins?
2. I accepted the fact that I'm simply never going to use every single plugin and library I own. For the longest time I stressed about making sure I got my money's worth out of every plugin, which created needless pressure and stress, and often led to creative paralysis. Once I arrived at #1 above, I realized that some plugins I bought simply because I enjoyed the research, the acquisition, the collecting. And now at least, if the need arises, I have the option of one day delving into a new library, but in the meantime, it's perfectly okay to just stick with what I know works.
Which brings me to the next point...
3. Sort of like creating a starting lineup in baseball, I established my core music production libraries and plugins, and accepted that these would form the baseline sound of my studio and music. When the need arises, I'll consider a new rookie plugin, and if it's absolutely phenomenal, I'll work it into the starting lineup. But my core lineup always gets the job done, and most importantly, I'm intimately familiar with this palette of tools, which enables me to work quickly and confidently.
So in conclusion, I'm continuing to buy libraries and plugins (as long as I can afford to) without guilt or regret, knowing full well that I'll realistically only ever use a fraction of my new acqusitions. And that's okay, because I have a core set of music creation and production tools that I'm intimately familiar with and continue to serve me well.
Enjoy what you enjoy, and go make music!
micrologus
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Soundhound
Senior Member
Handy! I use quick menus in Kontakt organized by category, Woodwinds, Brass, SFX, Perc, Farts, the usual... It would be lovely to have it all in the Logic library so UVI, Play, synths, Toontrack, Amplesound etc. could be in there as well, all together.
I still don't use templates much (aside from basic routing, inst group setups etc) - I wonder if there's a way to use the Logic Library and just show what libraries and VSTs are available, rather than individual patches. You have to actually load a kontakt patch for this to work is that right? I suppose you could just make a patch of the first Kontakt instrument from each library...
And how did you get the SF Woods library logo to show up in the header there? When I'm working I'm often thinking 'the Jaeger shorts are good, but what else do I have?' and a visual list to scan through would be nice...
I still don't use templates much (aside from basic routing, inst group setups etc) - I wonder if there's a way to use the Logic Library and just show what libraries and VSTs are available, rather than individual patches. You have to actually load a kontakt patch for this to work is that right? I suppose you could just make a patch of the first Kontakt instrument from each library...
And how did you get the SF Woods library logo to show up in the header there? When I'm working I'm often thinking 'the Jaeger shorts are good, but what else do I have?' and a visual list to scan through would be nice...
Patch manager and the Library are your new best friends. Check it out! Takes me 3 minutes to build a template (well, I have one that is just routing and such that I use before I get started) and just a few seconds to add something later on when I need it. No more need for cumbersome templates and slaves; and to stay on topic, I know exactly what I have. Hmm - do I need another flute? Let me check... nah, I'm good.
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micrologus
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micrologus
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Alex Fraser
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Or you’ll feel the need to buy libraries just to fill the list.Great! I will keep busy for a while, instead of buying new libraries!
Oh stop!Or you’ll feel the need to buy libraries just to fill the list.
Soundhound
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chocobitz825
Senior Member
As previously stated here, if you’re buying libraries to cope with something then you”ll likely spend that money somewhere else even if you give up on buying new libraries. There is a benefit to wasting your money on a product that can be useful. If you can stop buying, great, but if the FOMO is too strong, then I still believe the best thing you can do is challenge your creativity. Give the manuals a quick look over. Find out how the library works. Try it out on a track, even a quick one so you get to know what its strengths and weaknesses are. Create an organizational structure in your DAW so you know what you have and where they are.
For me, using studio one, I’ve sorted all my plugins down to type within the instruments menu, and quick load menu in Kontakt. I’ve been going over manuals to get a better understand of what my libraries do and where they can fit in various projects. From reading the manual I’ve made articulation “maps” (not truly available in studio one, but the drum map is fine), and keyswitch macros so I no longer feel stopped by various instruments different setups. Honestly instruments are not a place where I feel I wasted money, but rather on large collections of FX plugins. I mean, how many EQs can you need right? So now I’m doing the same thing with those too. If you have a large toolbox, commit to using your tools. It cant be a waste if you actually use it.
For me, using studio one, I’ve sorted all my plugins down to type within the instruments menu, and quick load menu in Kontakt. I’ve been going over manuals to get a better understand of what my libraries do and where they can fit in various projects. From reading the manual I’ve made articulation “maps” (not truly available in studio one, but the drum map is fine), and keyswitch macros so I no longer feel stopped by various instruments different setups. Honestly instruments are not a place where I feel I wasted money, but rather on large collections of FX plugins. I mean, how many EQs can you need right? So now I’m doing the same thing with those too. If you have a large toolbox, commit to using your tools. It cant be a waste if you actually use it.
Parsifal666
I don't even own a DAW, I'm just a troll.
If you stick with it you will be greatly rewarded. I wouldn't steer you wrong, my friend.
I think the gamut of advice in this thread, from the practical to the emotional, is great.
Even as I pledged going cold-turkey for three months, to support anybody who wants that support, I personally am not in dire need. Moderation may be a more realistic goal for some.
That being said, if anyone wants any custom Logic icons, I’m happy to share from what I have to perhaps save some time, and aid in inventory management. The resolutions vary slightly, though.
Even as I pledged going cold-turkey for three months, to support anybody who wants that support, I personally am not in dire need. Moderation may be a more realistic goal for some.
That being said, if anyone wants any custom Logic icons, I’m happy to share from what I have to perhaps save some time, and aid in inventory management. The resolutions vary slightly, though.
TomislavEP
Senior Member
Since I've been living out of music for years now, my budget is often very constrained, but unfortunately this doesn't mean that I'm not familiar with the mentioned problem and that I'm immune to it.
Although the limitations can certainly be helpful in "making the right decision", sometimes it's just the opposite. In my case, I've purchased quite a few pieces of music software in the "stepping stones" process, while dreaming of being able to purchase something I've really wanted but I could't afford myself at the time. One of the most obvious examples is buying various limited and cheaper version of software from IK Multimedia and Native Instruments, until I've finally took the plunge and purchased my first Komplete version (9; I'm currently updating to 12). Since then, I've never used anything I've had before that.
For my personal situation, I've invested quite a bit in a collection of 3rd party Kontakt libraries and while I didn't buy too many titles I now wish I've didn't, I often overlook the quality and the possibilities of all the stuff I have available as a Komplete user before purchasing anything else. From now on, things are going to be much different.. (after I install all the new things from Komplete 12, my libraries SSD will be almost full, so I'm counting on that too)
Although the limitations can certainly be helpful in "making the right decision", sometimes it's just the opposite. In my case, I've purchased quite a few pieces of music software in the "stepping stones" process, while dreaming of being able to purchase something I've really wanted but I could't afford myself at the time. One of the most obvious examples is buying various limited and cheaper version of software from IK Multimedia and Native Instruments, until I've finally took the plunge and purchased my first Komplete version (9; I'm currently updating to 12). Since then, I've never used anything I've had before that.
For my personal situation, I've invested quite a bit in a collection of 3rd party Kontakt libraries and while I didn't buy too many titles I now wish I've didn't, I often overlook the quality and the possibilities of all the stuff I have available as a Komplete user before purchasing anything else. From now on, things are going to be much different.. (after I install all the new things from Komplete 12, my libraries SSD will be almost full, so I'm counting on that too)
