I'm Curious how you'd compare the tone here with your experience of CH solo strings?
Guys, just to be clear, it's actually NOT physical modeling, and has nothing to do with SWAM or AudioModeling at all (they separated careers long time ago). It's actually the Samplemodeling last generation of Kontakt Virtual Instruments: if you are curious about technology, just read the information on the producer web page.
P.S. for detractors, of course they are always welcome to show if they can do it better with their tools and their skills. We all just aim to improvement, and learning.
I have to agree. I was quite liking the emulation until I listened to the original. The actual performance they are emulating is a real barn burner, and very nicely recorded. We're a long way from capturing that with VIs. Overall, there is a brightness and blistering attack in the original performance that is lacking in the emulation. You can also hear much more discernible body tones and bow rosin in the original. Truly great string performance emulations, particularly solo and chamber, are a tough nut to crack, but good on them for trying. Tone is everything though.It sounds good on it's own. However, if compared to the original live video, it's worlds apart in basically everything. I thought it was a bad move on Samplemodeling to use this live performance. They would have been better off using the library with an original performance. This actually works against them I think.
"A paradigm shift for virtual instruments where realism and playability share equal value."
Sorry I don't share your excitement, this is still too synthy... modeled strings just don't work for me.
The original performance
It sounds good on it's own. However, if compared to the original live video, it's worlds apart in basically everything. I thought it was a bad move on Samplemodeling to use this live performance. They would have been better off using the library with an original performance. This actually works against them I think.
I have to agree. I was quite liking the emulation until I listened to the original. The actual performance they are emulating is a real barn burner, and very nicely recorded. We're a long way from capturing that with VIs. Overall, there is a brightness and blistering attack in the original performance that is lacking in the emulation. You can also hear much more discernible body tones and bow rosin in the original. Truly great string performance emulations, particularly solo and chamber, are a tough nut to crack, but good on them for trying. Tone is everything though.
That video takes music into the uncanny valley. Google it. I personally found it disturbing. The track by itself is impressive, but the concept of overwriting a real performance is somehow creepy. IMHO.
"A paradigm shift for virtual instruments where realism and playability share equal value."
Sorry I don't share your excitement, this is still too synthy... modeled strings just don't work for me.
The original performance
i think the only remedy to the uncanny valley for these libraries is read-ahead function on all the libraries. no doubt this is system heavy, but what the recreation lacks is anticipation of the next attack. Theres a forward motion that creates a sense of energy and anticipation in the original piece. a library generally has individual notes with no direct context and connection to the notes before and after it. If more libraries employed something like what audiobro's choir vst does, perhaps it could better find the right sample to simulate natural motion.
i think the only remedy to the uncanny valley for these libraries is read-ahead function on all the libraries. no doubt this is system heavy, but what the recreation lacks is anticipation of the next attack. Theres a forward motion that creates a sense of energy and anticipation in the original piece. a library generally has individual notes with no direct context and connection to the notes before and after it. If more libraries employed something like what audiobro's choir vst does, perhaps it could better find the right sample to simulate natural motion.
Third, instead of comparing these to real strings, why don't we compare them to other string libraries. And in that case, these strings sound superb
"Much remains to be done, to perfect these instruments. However, we expect to enter the beta phase in about one month."