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2018 Mac Mini

Yes, and double the RAM for half the price. :rolleyes:

$329 for 64GB on Amazon. I had to look.

And by the way, I don't think the current Mac Pro is a good investment today as a professional studio computer, I just think it's a better one than the Mac Mini for most people here - which isn't saying a whole lot.

(About the Macs, that is, not about the people here. :) )
 
$329 for 64GB on Amazon. I had to look.
Wow, that's just slightly more than the $280 I paid for 32GB (16x2) for my Mini. I often think I should have just gotten the 64GB for $1079. Two SO-DIMM slots is so limiting that I think the comparison with the 2019 Mac Pro will show the latter in a favorable light price-wise when including the cost of RAM.
 
I'm looking at the moment and finding it hard to decide if I would be better off getting a new Mac Mini (I'd start with 32gb which is ypgrupg myself as 64gb is too expensive) or go for a refurbished Mac Pro with 64gb off the bat. (8 core model)

Cost wise there isn't much in it?
 
I'm looking at the moment and finding it hard to decide if I would be better off getting a new Mac Mini (I'd start with 32gb which is ypgrupg myself as 64gb is too expensive) or go for a refurbished Mac Pro with 64gb off the bat. (8 core model)

Cost wise there isn't much in it?

I chose Mac Mini over refurbed 8 core mainly because of (soon to be) ancient ports on the nMP and also single core performance.
 
I chose Mac Mini over refurbed 8 core mainly because of (soon to be) ancient ports on the nMP and also single core performance.

No comment about single-core performance, but *ancient* ports?

What can't connect to the black Mac Pro?

Again, I have issues with that machine, but the ports aren't among them.
 
$329 for 64GB on Amazon. I had to look.

And by the way, I don't think the current Mac Pro is a good investment today as a professional studio computer, I just think it's a better one than the Mac Mini for most people here - which isn't saying a whole lot.

(About the Macs, that is, not about the people here. :) )
Link to that ram please? Is it as fast as apple’s ram?
 
https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=16gb+ddr3+ecc&tag=mh0b-20&index=aps&hvadid=77653057104925&hvqmt=b&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_60p5rtgj4w_b

If it meets the spec, it's the same speed. Cut/paste from the Apple Store:
1866MHz DDR3 ECC memory

Also, does RAM speed make any difference, considering the average human lifespan?
 
No comment about single-core performance, but *ancient* ports?
What can't connect to the black Mac Pro?
Again, I have issues with that machine, but the ports aren't among them.

I have had an experience where I had a great mac for the time and within 3 years USB 2.0 became the bottleneck. Even after more than 7 years my iMac 2011 is going great but usb2 was such a pain.

If I am buying a mac now I want to use it for at least 5/6 more years so makes sense to buy the one with updated ports and internals.
 
Tried the New Logic Benchmark Test

Got 83 tracks smooth playback at 128 Buffer\44.1KHz on Mac Mini

For reference:
iMac Pro Base: 166
Mac Pro 12 Core Tower (2010): 94
MacBook Pro i7 (2018): 76
MacBook Pro i9 (2018): 71-75
MacPro Quad Core Trashcan (2013): 49

Note: This is not the Classic Logic benchmark test by Evan, also found on https://logicbenchmarks.com/ (LogicBenchmarks.com)
 
Tried the New Logic Benchmark Test

Got 83 tracks smooth playback at 128 Buffer\44.1KHz on Mac Mini

For reference:
iMac Pro Base: 166
Mac Pro 12 Core Tower (2010): 94
MacBook Pro i7 (2018): 76
MacBook Pro i9 (2018): 71-75
MacPro Quad Core Trashcan (2013): 49

Note: This is not the Classic Logic benchmark test by Evan, also found on https://logicbenchmarks.com/ (LogicBenchmarks.com)

THIS. is what I've been waiting for. Thank you sir! That '10 Mac Pro 12 core though, oof. :-O

What's the test duration? Was it over a minute? Asking for thermal throttling concerns. Did you monitor the temp by any chance?
 
A comparison to a 6-core or 8-core Trashcan would be useful since the i7 Mini is 6-core. Either way, the higher up you go on cores the lower the clock speed, correct? The Mac Mini wins on that front, but loses on RAM prices.
 
A comparison to a 6-core or 8-core Trashcan would be useful since the i7 Mini is 6-core. Either way, the higher up you go on cores the lower the clock speed, correct? The Mac Mini wins on that front, but loses on RAM prices.

Also please post your Mac Mini configuration when you post the benchmark.

I'd like to see when does thermal throttling kick in (how many minutes in, what temperature?), when you run the benchmark.
 
Also please post your Mac Mini configuration when you post the benchmark.

I'd like to see when does thermal throttling kick in (how many minutes in, what temperature?), when you run the benchmark.
I just installed 32GB RAM in my Mac Mini late last night and almost have all my software setup. I bought iStat last week for various measurements. Is that an adequate tool? It shows temperature readings and processor usage. I’ll take a snapshot of the readings if that’s good enough. If there’s a better way then I’m open to suggestions. I’ve never done any sort of benchmarking before so any tips are appreciated.
 
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