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Thought I'd chuck this in here.
Btw, in regards to your comment at 18:57, Orchestral Tools does have the Berlin EXP E SFX library.
Thought I'd chuck this in here.
Thought I'd chuck this in here.
Thought I'd chuck this in here.
Btw, in regards to your comment at 18:57, Orchestral Tools does have the Berlin EXP E SFX library.
I understand where you're coming from. From using the library personally non stop for the last 20 hours I can positively say there are no phase, hiss or image issues apart from what you would hear in a real live recording (many samples were taken from performances). The difference in sound and "old" tone you heard was most likely the flautando and sordino string patches (the "Vintage" strings patches), which are meant to sound slightly different from the rest of the legato styles, and as for the image, I was switching between divisi and full a lot in all of the individual section patches. Most notable is the switch from middle to slightly right in the violas Lush KS patch. Either way I understand that with a price tag that high people's suspicion and critical ears will be on high alert.I am still on the fence, unfortunately. I hear some phasing like issues, weird hissing noises (e.g. on the cellos), stereo perspective issues (samples jumping all over the place), and the sound seems inconsistent between patches/sections which I can see would be a big annoyance - like many patches sound "old", like a pillow has been pulled over the sound, completely lacking air. I have Strezovs first little string library, Cornucopia, where I always thought the sound was a stylistic choice. But now with this I am not so sure.... maybe it's more a cultural, traditional thing making it sound like that. And possibly some mics that aren't up to the task of capturing all the detail and clarity which should be present in strings.
At half the price I would buy it anyway, because there IS stuff that I really like when I hear it (the shorts, the shark strings patch for example), but even after the walkthroughs and reviews coming out I just remain with a somewhat confused picture of what the library is and how it sounds.
I think I'll grab it at a sale at sometime, and at that time I hope I'll be bitching about why I didn't buy it now
I understand where you're coming from. From using the library personally non stop for the last 20 hours I can positively say there are no phase, hiss or image issues apart from what you would hear in a real live recording (many samples were taken from performances). The difference in sound and "old" tone you heard was most likely the flautando and sordino string patches (the "Vintage" strings patches), which are meant to sound slightly different from the rest of the legato styles, and as for the image, I was switching between divisi and full a lot in all of the individual section patches. Most notable is the switch from middle to slightly right in the violas Lush KS patch. Either way I understand that with a price tag that high people's suspicion and critical ears will be on high alert.
Ha, you make it sound like they're good enough for little old me but not enough for you. I get what you're saying though, no problems. It's just easier for me to make a call on it because I have the luxury of going into the samples myself and checking everything - not something everyone else has considering the price, so I got lucky. I honestly really do love the library though. Best thing I've used since CSS and Chamber Strings.Hey Cory. Good that you are happy with them. But what I meant with the "old" sound isn't the sordinos or flautandos, just the regular sections, especially the divisi ones I believe. And I am not talking about recording hiss, it seems more to be a result of mic placement (e.g. for cellos that I mentioned) and other technical decisions leading to these unwanted artifacts. And regarding the stereo-perspective change + phasing I heard that in the non-Soundcloud version of "Pictures of you" (one of the official demos) as well.
So as I said... at the current pricetag I am not willing to shell out for it with the chance of hardly ever using it because of these issues. But with a 50% sale or something in the future, no problem.
Honestly. I think that your review represents this library in a better light than anything else I've heard before. Good job!
-Hannes
Please report back. Would love to hear your thoughts (while I check the couch for loose change ).I agree! I was thinking a lot about whether to buy or not... Saw this review and had no more doubts and purchased immediately, with no fear. Thanks @Cory Pelizzari for an excellent review that really shows how musical, realistic and even "buttery" these strings sound. Downloaded yesterday and I'm getting ready to trying them out.
The Avant-garde sustains are fantastic, but I can do similar things with Evo Grid 1.
Convert it to Australian and it's $1300. We love living here.I will buy this eventually, but with exchange it's $1000. I already have Albion I/II/III/IV/V, SCS, VSL DS, HS, Adagio, and other small ones such as Cornucopia 1 & 2, the ones included in Kontakt Ultimate, and good old EWQLSO. It's just a bit silly to buy more strings even if they sound as great as these ones do. I really believe in the workflow. I am astounded by the sound. Such realistic, emotional, playable performances. What an achievement! I wish I could support it just based on the high quality of the release. But I straight up do not have $1000 in my budget for more strings. I just don't.
Congrats again to GS/Strezov team regardless!!!
I guess as a strings 'consumer'...I would pull the trigger right away if there was a kind of...let's say modular way to purchase the whole library(such as...eg by sections or any other way to divide the library)!!!!I wish I could support it just based on the high quality of the release. But I straight up do not have $1000 in my budget for more strings
Whenever I run into a pricey library I want that doesn't have a la carte, I pretend to buy different sections for fractions of the overall cost by sending the money to a savings account every couple of weeks, then when I've "bought" all the sections, I take the money and drop it on the library.I guess as a strings 'consumer'...I would pull the trigger right away if there was a kind of...let's say modular way to purchase the whole library(such as...eg by sections or any other way to divide the library)!!!!