ChrisSiuMusic
Senior Member
Michael Giacchino - The Ultimate Jazz Band (Cinesamples)
VSL Dimension Strings 3
With 8 velocity layers, more articulations, larger sections and 2nd violins. Still recorded dry!
Also this:
Except that technique, texture, orchestrations, extended techniques are innovations that are passed down from composers to the next generations all the time.
Pizz. as we think of it today is at least argueably a Beethoven innovation (string quartet 10 if I recall). But my favorite example is Wagner, who decided he simply could not write the music he could feel without inventing a whole new tuba. Which of course in now quite standard in large orchestras.
Olafur Arnalds chamber evolutions, at least for the last hour or so, are my Wagner tuba . Or maybe its the clarinets in Tidal orchestra. Or the Vc + Db harmonics in LCO, or the con legno tratto in HZS. I object strenuously to intimations of fanboyism - but please tell me, who’s better, at orchestral scale, at inventing tubas than Spitfire? And their success at tuba inventing comes from their collaborations with artists who’s music just can’t come into existence without new tuba technology (as opposed to merely engineers). OT , for instance, do amazing work at upping the game in conventional virtual tuba technology, but they’re not a tuba inventing company.
Some libraries engineer a better tuba , some invent a whole new tuba. You’ve got to love both.
It’s really nothing more that the innovations going on with synths in recent decades, but now at orchestral scale.
Holy hell, that would be awesome!Jerry Goldsmith - Omen Choirs
And how could I forget?! We need a Junkie XL Mad Max percussion library!!!
The Pawn Shop.
Broken instruments you find at a pawn shop that are simply junk at that point. It would be great to get the raw "out of the shop" sound before fixing any broken parts or re-stringing instrument. I got the idea years ago when I went to a really awesome instrument pawn shop in El Cerrito, CA. They had the entire orchestra but the crappiest quality I could imagine, and cheap. I don't know if it's still around but that idea has always stuck with me.
Cheers,
Chris
Yes! With a special add-on of Fiery Guitar Solos! I'd like to see libraries from either Cliff Martinez or Trent & Atticus. I don't want them to necessarily give us Solaris steel drums or Social Network drones, but they have such interesting sonic voices that I'd love to hear what they'd come up with for us.
I don't remember the name of it but it's on San Pablo on the same block as the Rialto Cinema there near the Plaza. I doubt it's still around but it was pretty awesome. I bought an acoustic guitar from them. Total piece of crap but only cost me $20.I LOVE this idea. Also, I grew up in El Cerrito(!), so maybe I'm partial. What was the shop? And I really do love this idea. Pendle at Sound Dust gets close.
I want to hear your guys' concepts, and why you think it would make a great sample library. Go!
IMHO inspiration from other artists is always valuable. But Ramin Djwadi Solo Strings? Cinestrings Solo (same cellist as GoT). John Williams Toolkit? Spitfire Symphony Orchestra. It's often so much more about what you do with the notes, more than what the libraries are designed to sound like.
Sample libraries are incredible, and I happily use them every day. But we shouldn't forget one of my favourite examples of what happens when you pick up a microphone and craft a score in its purest meaning... I'm sure Jóhann didn't need a Jóhann Jóhannsson Toolkit for this one
now that's something i'd spend money onThomas Bergersen Toolkit.
Everything from Rock and Dubsteb to Choir and Chamber Strings.
500 TB compressed.
Retails for 666.666$ intro price.
Produced by 8Dio. (goes to 888.888$ 8 days after release)
I deffinetely get where you are coming from.
There's certain specific things though that are more difficult to capture in general purpose libraries. The specific playability of James Newton Howard's violin writing on the Village with all the super complex arps and such, hasn't been sampled before (Hillary Hahn in specific), woodwind evolutions in the style of Olafur Arnalds, I think that could possibly add a lot to the palette and it hasn't been done before, and Satnam Ramgotra's eccentric playing style, hasn't really been captured in samples. HGW' choral work is deffinetely achievable, I had to figure out a way to do it on the Narnia episode a few weeks back, nonetheless, the guy writes for choirs insanely well, and it would be cool to have a little bit of his personal flare from Crimson Tide, Narnia, etc. Those are just a couple examples.
Couldn't agree more in regards to the JW example though. I was simply saying that if there was a Ramin Djawadi solo strings toolkit, I'd probs click the buy button . There's a certain sound he has, check out "Victory Does Not Make Us Conquerors" from S1.
Anyways, it's just for fun. Just interested to see what kind of new samples people in this community are imagining for the future.