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Must admit I'm struggling to get to grips with this, some of the UI elements are just to small and fiddly. Also the whole signal seems very "hot" simple loading up a patch and playing a note often peaks kontakts output. The demos sound great but replication seems difficult, especially as some parts of the UI are actually different from the version in the videos. I appreciate the effort that goes into these products but would have been much happier with some more detailed documentation and a little more polish on the interface .
 
Must admit I'm struggling to get to grips with this, some of the UI elements are just to small and fiddly. Also the whole signal seems very "hot" simple loading up a patch and playing a note often peaks kontakts output. The demos sound great but replication seems difficult, especially as some parts of the UI are actually different from the version in the videos. I appreciate the effort that goes into these products but would have been much happier with some more detailed documentation and a little more polish on the interface .

Having played with it for about an hour, I agree, I have been struggling with this so far. The interface is really difficult and rather than the mountain of different mic positions I would have preferred more variety in the patches and some functionality to change them. The Pad sounds, for example all sound very similar. The panning left and right on some patches as you move up and down the keyboard seems extreme - there might be an option to change that but I haven't found it yet.

The UI doesn't give you any feedback on the currently selected item, for example in the arp mode drop-down selection you cannot tell which one is active, it just says "note order". The whole concept is a great idea, and I appreciate it must have been a lot of work, but at the moment it's a premium price for something that doesn't feel ready yet.
 
Audio Ollie, I bought the library based on your amazing demo:

I understand the concept is for us to apply our own effects to these raw samples, however a lot of us are just presets-type people :) I'm interested to learn about adding effects to patches, I just don't have much knowledge about that. I'd love to have a video walk-through of that piece showing exactly what you did, effects-wise, to coax those beautiful sounds out of Scoring Synths. Another idea would be to have a PDF tutorial of your favorite effects you use with Scoring Synths... effects for dreamy pads, those guitar sounds, etc.
 
Yeah, it's a lib filled with almost endless possibilities. It looks so simple on the surface and there are really only a few controls on the GUI.

I've had to take the time to carefully watch the vids and mimic them along the way. Then I'd fiddle around with what Ollie did and make new things out of them. It really fits the realm of Composer/Mixer. It takes a little from each of those areas.

I think it's key to train yourself to pay attention to where are all the knobs (filter, mono/poly, keyswitch & mod wheel position, etc.) of the particular sound you want to mimic. Ollie of course knows all of this so well and perhaps takes a little bit for granted of what the casual or only mildly attentive viewer may be focused on at any one time.

The cool thing is that after you do actually take the time to fully mimic what he's doing then you'll be rewarded with all sorts of things that you can't do anywhere else. Isn't that the point?

I've liked this since I saw the first walkthru vid. I think it's likely to be a tool that'll be used by a lot of people on a regular basis.

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Hey guys,

Thanks for all of your comments. I'm taking note of all of your feedback regarding the GUI. If you have further comments or suggestions as far as improving the product, shoot me a message at [email protected]. I'll be able to keep track of everyone's messages much easier that way.

As far as the sounds go, I can't stress enough that these are meant to be starting points, not finished presets. I understand that it might be a different workflow than some of you are used to, but that's the way this library was designed. I'd highly recommend building your own multis with stacks of like patches (I'm working on a set of multi patches that I'll be sending out to customers sometime in the coming weeks). I'll also continue to upload tutorials to help people get started with creative sound design, effects processing etc.

@chapbot Yes I'll post a video going over my teaser track.

@bigrichpea The control on the bottom right "SP" will control the spread of the DI.
 
Could someone do a demo of the dry sound through UAD's ocean way studios compared to a room recording from this library? I think that would really help to not only get a sense of how it sounds different but also to understand the limitations of technology like UAD's plugin.
 
Could someone do a demo of the dry sound through UAD's ocean way studios compared to a room recording from this library? I think that would really help to not only get a sense of how it sounds different but also to understand the limitations of technology like UAD's plugin.

I don't have the UAD OW studio plugin (that models the LA studio I believe), but I'd be happy to do a comparison between the real room recordings and a series of convolution reverbs if you want.
 
Oh didn't realize they were different spaces. Yeah I think it would be worth it because that is such a huge part of this library and also why it's 75gb I imagine.
 
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I'd love to see a walkthrough of how to create the synth pads from the "Let There be Light" audio demo. What a fantastic sound!
 
I'd love to see a walkthrough of how to create the synth pads from the "Let There be Light" audio demo. What a fantastic sound!

Coming later today!

@Audio Ollie, you mentioned somewhere that the guitar sound in the first trailer is from the library. But I don't see any guitar patches. Is it still included?

I'll show you how I made that exact sound with the library in the next video. It was made using the bass solo 2 patch :)
 
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Great video! Really enjoying the library. It's super versatile, but you gotta earn it. The video shows it's not rocket science, but takes a little bit of processing. I've been running the pads and basses through my Kemper in addition to plugs. Just start stacking patches and it will make sense. Try stacking a couple pads using different mics, stack one of the plucks with an arp underneath and turn the filter down. Now play it as one big pulsing pad. Amazing.
 
It's a very interesting library. It seems to equally cross the boundary of Composer/Mixer. I'd think that people from both of those camps would be interested in getting the advantages of Moog filters and the incredible room depth(s) they've gotten with re-amping it in a great room.

More and more with the de-valuing of recorded music, engineers and composers have necessarily had to learn to do more in-house. There is a lot of Jack of all trades action going on. Scoring Synths unconsciously addresses this trend. It's a hybrid product.

The mics sound killer. It reminds me of Spitfire libraries in that respect. The difference between close mic strings, tree mics and wide/surround mics are key. You just can't do that with reverb - and I have a ton of reverbs - Bricastis, 480L, PCM 96 Surround, TC M6000, Eventide H8000, MIR Pro, SPAT, tons of software, etc., etc. You cannot replace good mic positions. I've bought all those reverbs to try to get those kind of sounds that different mic positions give us.

Scoring Synths has also saved me from popping for one of the last re-issue miniMoogs. (And don't tell me about the Behringer clones. While they're a really great value, they do not sound like the Moog filters. I've heard them back to back on great speakers. I want every last iota of punch and quality in everything I do.) I don't currently have a room big enough to do decent re-amping/Worldizing. So I never could have gotten these kind of sounds on my own.

So thanks Ollie. You came along just at the right time for me.

And hey, personally I prefer the fact that there aren't tons of fx on every patch. I feel like I have a tool that has more flexibility when it comes to customization. I think that the many basic Moog patches are curated sufficiently to let me use them in all sorts of situations.

I see this being a tool that I can use for years to come.

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OK took the plunge, what I am about to say is after using it for about 2 hrs and watching and rewatching videos for another 2 (you really have to do that to get the most out this library and I still have a ways to go).

I was going to whole heartedly endorse this product but I don't think it is for everyone. Those who like to pick a preset in Omnishpere or scroll till you find one that is inspirational or you can slightly tweak and thats the end of your desire to edit will probably not like this lib. Sonically there is nothing out there that compares to this and it's more than just the mic positions though that certainly is a big part of it. if you are willing to do a little work this library will reward you in ways no other library can. Also the patch list is deceivingly small. Many patches have 7 variations, some it makes a big difference and others not so much but there is a ton of material here once you start tweaking. The starting points to creating your sounds are fantastic and to those who are willing to put in a little time will be rewarded. A unique approach, the mic positions are part of that but there are quite a few other features that make this library unique. I have a few quips...small buttons, tiny sliders, things like that are a bit annoying especially as one should want to tweak, but all in all a very pleasant surprise.
 
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Great video! Really enjoying the library. It's super versatile, but you gotta earn it. The video shows it's not rocket science, but takes a little bit of processing. I've been running the pads and basses through my Kemper in addition to plugs. Just start stacking patches and it will make sense. Try stacking a couple pads using different mics, stack one of the plucks with an arp underneath and turn the filter down. Now play it as one big pulsing pad. Amazing.

It's a very interesting library. It seems to equally cross the boundary of Composer/Mixer. I'd think that people from both of those camps would be interested in getting the advantages of Moog filters and the incredible room depth(s) they've gotten with re-amping it in a great room.

More and more with the de-valuing of recorded music, engineers and composers have necessarily had to learn to do more in-house. There is a lot of Jack of all trades action going on. Scoring Synths unconsciously addresses this trend. It's a hybrid product.

The mics sound killer. It reminds me of Spitfire libraries in that respect. The difference between close mic strings, tree mics and wide/surround mics are key. You just can't do that with reverb - and I have a ton of reverbs - Bricastis, 480L, PCM 96 Surround, TC M6000, Eventide H8000, MIR Pro, SPAT, tons of software, etc., etc. You cannot replace good mic positions. I've bought all those reverbs to try to get those kind of sounds that different mic positions give us.

Scoring Synths has also saved me from popping for one of the last re-issue miniMoogs. (And don't tell me about the Behringer clones. While they're a really great value, they do not sound like the Moog filters. I've heard them back to back on great speakers. I want every last iota of punch and quality in everything I do.) I don't currently have a room big enough to do decent re-amping/Worldizing. So I never could have gotten these kind of sounds on my own.

So thanks Ollie. You came along just at the right time for me.

And hey, personally I prefer the fact that there aren't tons of fx on every patch. I feel like I have a tool that has more flexibility when it comes to customization. I think that the many basic Moog patches are curated sufficiently to let me use them in all sorts of situations.

I see this being a tool that I can use for years to come.

.

OK took the plunge, what I am about to say is after using it for about 2 hrs and watching and rewatching videos for another 2 (you really have to do that to get the most out this library and I still have a ways to go).

I was going to whole heartedly endorse this product but I don't think it is for everyone. Those who like to pick a preset in Omnishpere or scroll till you find one that is inspirational or you can slightly tweak and thats the end of your desire to edit will probably not like this lib. Sonically there is nothing out there that compares to this and it's more than just the mic positions though that certainly is a big part of it. if you are willing to do a little work this library will reward you in ways no other library can. Also the patch list is deceivingly small. Many patches have 7 variations, some it makes a big difference and others not so much but there is a ton of material here once you start tweaking. The starting points to creating your sounds are fantastic and to those who are willing to put in a little time will be rewarded. A unique approach, the mic positions are part of that but there are quite a few other features that make this library unique. I have a few quips...small buttons, tiny sliders, things like that are a bit annoying especially as one should want to tweak, but all in all a very pleasant surprise.

WOW guys! Thank you so much for taking the time to share your impressions of the library. I'm so glad to hear that the concept is resonating with you. I've put over a year of sweat equity into this library, and it's extremely rewarding to hear that some of you appreciate what I've created. I hope you all have a lovely weekend!

- Ollie
 
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