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MIDI Control Surface - MCU Pro, Behringer X-Touch, BCF2000, ect.

Hi, I'm not Sean, but seeing your replying to a thread over a year old I thought I would chime in by posting the manual for reference. Hope that helps.
https://media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0B3L/BEHRINGER_X-TOUCH%20COMPACT%20P0B3L_Product%20Information%20Document.pdf
 
synthpunk said:
Hi, I'm not Sean, but seeing your replying to a thread over a year old I thought I would chime in by posting the manual for reference. Hope that helps.
https://media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0B3L/BEHRINGER_X-TOUCH%20COMPACT%20P0B3L_Product%20Information%20Document.pdf (https://media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0B3L/BEHRINGER_X-TOUCH COMPACT P0B3L_Product Information Document.pdf)
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Oh shoot, I might have sent it to you by mistake, but thanks for the info...
 
DynamicK said:
I've got a XTC. The faders aren't motorised in Midi Mode A&B by default. It can be done easily if you have Studio One by Control Link if that's what you are after.
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That's Great, because I don't want Fader Movement during MIDI CC as it is less intuitive for me, and wanted to make sure if I am getting right controller, anyways thanks for the info Mate...
 
DynamicK said:
I've got a XTC. The faders aren't motorised in Midi Mode A&B by default. It can be done easily if you have Studio One by Control Link if that's what you are after.
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Also wanted to know your experience with it, I mean would you recommend xtouch compact for midi cc automation over bcf 2000 or faderctrl(that is custom built controller sold here on this forum) pls suggest, thanks!!!
 
Hey guys, for what it’s worth, I grabbed an X-Touch Compact and I absolutely LOVE it. Getting Midas on board for manufacturing was the best move they ever made. This thing feels like a real quality piece of hardware – the faders are incredibly smooth and with 100mm range, there’s plenty a resolution to be truly expressive with the latest crop of VIs - no more tiny cheesy plastic faders for me. And with 2 layers, each fader, button, and knob can essentially do two different things. In CC mode the fader motors are off, which is perfect; with a quick reboot into MC mode, I can use it for touch-sensitive automation writes with full MCU support.

IMO, other than its chunky size and having to power off to reboot, this is the perfect hardware controller for what we do!
 
I would also add the vaporware Mac editor that never was released as a negative, but there are ways around this using your daw.

whinecellar said:
Hey guys, for what it’s worth, I grabbed an X-Touch Compact and I absolutely LOVE it. Getting Midas on board for manufacturing was the best move they ever made. This thing feels like a real quality piece of hardware – the faders are incredibly smooth and with 100mm range, there’s plenty a resolution to be truly expressive with the latest crop of VIs - no more tiny cheesy plastic faders for me. And with 2 layers, each fader, button, and knob can essentially do two different things. In CC mode the fader motors are off, which is perfect; with a quick reboot into MC mode, I can use it for touch-sensitive automation writes with full MCU support.

IMO, other than its chunky size and having to power off to reboot, this is the perfect hardware controller for what we do!
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whinecellar said:
Hey guys, for what it’s worth, I grabbed an X-Touch Compact and I absolutely LOVE it. Getting Midas on board for manufacturing was the best move they ever made. This thing feels like a real quality piece of hardware – the faders are incredibly smooth and with 100mm range, there’s plenty a resolution to be truly expressive with the latest crop of VIs - no more tiny cheesy plastic faders for me. And with 2 layers, each fader, button, and knob can essentially do two different things. In CC mode the fader motors are off, which is perfect; with a quick reboot into MC mode, I can use it for touch-sensitive automation writes with full MCU support.

IMO, other than its chunky size and having to power off to reboot, this is the perfect hardware controller for what we do!
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Thanks for taking time and sharing your experience...
 
whinecellar said:
Sure thing. Yeah, I forgot to mention the no Mac editor issue - big bummer. I use my PC slave to program it which is incredibly easy, but an actual Mac app would be great!
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Oh thats good info. So you actual reprogram the device itself and it retains the changes when you plug it back into the Mac?

What settings are you actually changing out of curiosity?
 
X-Touch Compact is the update to the BCF 2000 AFAIK. As mentioned, it is a little heavy, but that to me says quality. I did try out a Platfom M, and this is streets ahead. I programmed Layer A to be mostly CC sending on all faders and encoders. Layer B is a sort of Mackie hack, so I don't have to switch the power off to go into MCU mode. Reasonably easy to achieve:- I used MidiOX to see what was being sent in MCU Mode, and then programmed Layer B similarly. Really pleased with it and I suggest you buy from a retailer that offers the 30 day no quibble return, as a lot of online retailers in the UK now offer.
 
Josh Richman said:
Oh thats good info. So you actual reprogram the device itself and it retains the changes when you plug it back into the Mac?

What settings are you actually changing out of curiosity?
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Yes, when you program it with the PC editor, it saves all assignments internally so you can then use it on your Mac via USB or old-school MIDI. Faders (and exp pedal input) cover all my CC needs as well as advanced controllers for Spitfire & other libs (vibrato, tightness, release, mic mixer, etc.). Buttons are all mapped to Logic functions...
 
DynamicK said:
Layer B is a sort of Mackie hack, so I don't have to switch the power off to go into MCU mode. Reasonably easy to achieve:- I used MidiOX to see what was being sent in MCU Mode, and then programmed Layer B similarly
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Wow - great idea! So do the faders follow automation then as they would in native MC mode? Touch-sensitive automation works as expected? I was thinking it would be awesome to keep all my custom assignments for CCs and then set up just the master fader to do automation writes on the selected channel. Wonder if that’s possible...
 
By the way, is there any advantage to get the x Touch instead of the x Touch compact ? As far as i can see the price is 117€ more for the biggest model. What are your thought, do you use it ? Thanks for your time.
 
fiestared said:
By the way, is there any advantage to get the x Touch instead of the x Touch compact ? As far as i can see the price is 117€ more for the biggest model. What are your thought, do you use it ? Thanks for your time.
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There’s actually a huge downside to the X-Touch - only the Compact version can be programmed to send custom CC mappings! Baffles me - I would have liked the jog/shuttle wheel and larger master section, track name displays, etc., but my primary need was for a high quality CC controller...
 
I’m actually considering getting the full X-touch for MC mode/mixing, and leaving the compact for CC-only duties. Best of both, and they’re designed to sit next to each other. I’m just running out of room in my workstation!
 
whinecellar said:
I’m actually considering getting the full X-touch for MC mode/mixing, and leaving the compact for CC-only duties. Best of both, and they’re designed to sit next to each other. I’m just running out of room in my workstation!
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Thanks whinecellar, same prob for me, the room...
 
whinecellar said:
Yes, when you program it with the PC editor, it saves all assignments internally so you can then use it on your Mac via USB or old-school MIDI. Faders (and exp pedal input) cover all my CC needs as well as advanced controllers for Spitfire & other libs (vibrato, tightness, release, mic mixer, etc.). Buttons are all mapped to Logic functions...
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So what’s your layout for the assignments? I looking to plan how I should set mine up. I use a lot Spitfire too. How are ppl usually assigning their sliders? (Which order). And what’s the stock assignments for midi CC on the X-Touch compact. Will it work/send midi CC on Mac without setup on a pc?
 
whinecellar said:
Wow - great idea! So do the faders follow automation then as they would in native MC mode? Touch-sensitive automation works as expected? I was thinking it would be awesome to keep all my custom assignments for CCs and then set up just the master fader to do automation writes on the selected channel. Wonder if that’s possible...
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For faders all you have to program is a Pitchbend on Channel 1 for Fader 1, etc. Channel 9 for the Master Fader. Other Encoders and switches would be dependent on your DAW. You would need to get the MCU implementation for your DAW.
 
whinecellar said:
Hey guys, for what it’s worth, I grabbed an X-Touch Compact and I absolutely LOVE it. Getting Midas on board for manufacturing was the best move they ever made. This thing feels like a real quality piece of hardware – the faders are incredibly smooth and with 100mm range, there’s plenty a resolution to be truly expressive with the latest crop of VIs - no more tiny cheesy plastic faders for me. And with 2 layers, each fader, button, and knob can essentially do two different things. In CC mode the fader motors are off, which is perfect; with a quick reboot into MC mode, I can use it for touch-sensitive automation writes with full MCU support.

IMO, other than its chunky size and having to power off to reboot, this is the perfect hardware controller for what we do!
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Hi, I own Behringer xtouch compact now, I tried using it as a generic remote controller for midi cc and it works great with studio one, but my issue is that whenever I take my fingers off of the faders after recording cc values the faders then move back to zero, wanted to ask if there is any way to turn the fader movement off completely, though faders don't follow the cc values during playback but whenever i write cc values and take my fingers off, they come back to zero which is bit annoying. thanks for your time ......
 
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