Puzzlefactory
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Personally, I don't like the way the NISSS strings sounds, especially the short articulations, so for that reason I would say CSS (which is my favourite string library that I own).
Between these two, i'll recommend CSS for its sound but in terms of workflow, i'll opt for Native Instruments Symphony Series Strings. Based on the video on the auto-divisi for Native Instruments Symphony Series Strings, i really love the easy and smart way of dealing with divisi strings writing. Pretty solid and smart approach in terms of scripting by Audio Bro. How i really wish this could be applied to LASS. Who knows perhaps the future LASS 3.0?
But if you're given a chance to wait, i'll try to wait for Chris Hein's upcoming Orchestral Strings library which he has showcased lately in one of the strings comparisons demos. Sounds beautiful even though it's not a finished product yet. To me seems like a few more scripting or programming touch up and i'm guessing it'll be out Q1 2018. Base on my experience with CH's solo strings libraries, his scripting and articulation switching is very fluid and i'm having a very positive mindset on his upcoming Orchestral Strings. I cant wait to hear its release.
I always say stray away from polling an incredibly popular library here. If I were to make a poll here saying "Who's better at getting to the moon, NASA or Spitfire Audio?" I'd be willing to bet Spitfire would win.
Absolutely. In my research I came up against the same wall of silence, hence my longer post above.LOL! I knew I would get some bias when I asked this question. The only reason I asked in the first place is because after a lot of research and scouring the forums, I haven't found very many, maybe 8 people total, that talk about NISSE and why they like/loath it. It's just not talked about...so without a healthy discussion from people who own and use the library, it can be a little daunting to try and make a solid decision.
Easy : Spitfire audio !"Who's better at getting to the moon, NASA or Spitfire Audio?"
Because the NI offering is 150 bucks, that's why.Understand the OP's Thread title ... but continue to wonder why Audiobro's LASS does not enter the discussion.
Because the NI offering is 150 bucks, that's why.
Like others, I am intrigued by the capabilities and certainly the price. But the demos aren't selling the product (2 sound pretty good). I'd at least like to hear some of the smaller sections straight up with no other instruments.
It doesn't follow the same pattern - the legato is a single layered patch over (I think) 4 velocity layers. Sometimes I can hear "the joins" if I listen hard enough, but you can further "blur" things by cc controlling the modulation.How is the dynamic cross fade in SSSE?
This is what really bothers me in the NI solo brass - it has some sampled dynamic arcs, but even the sustain patches come in soft and loud patches with no playable cross fade between dynamics. The arcs do sound good, but I find them very cumbersome, and not at all playable. ( And perhaps a bit cynically, I wonder if they're primarily there to allow demos to give the impression that it can do dynamics better that it does.) I find this is an utterly fatal flaw, especially in a brass library.
Maybe it's an idiosyncrasy, but the ability to start very softly and crescendo convincingly has become my litmus test of a great library. And it can be very hard to tell from demos just how well a library does this (or, if you prefer, easy to conceal limitations via careful marketing).
Any thoughts on how well SSSE does this?
Understand the OP's Thread title ... but continue to wonder why Audiobro's LASS does not enter the discussion.
Do those who define clear reasons against NI_SSS, find similar issues with LASS ??
NI offer is attractive, and this Thread is most helpful. LASS represents far more investment, and more related comment surely seems appropriate here ?
"it´s not talked about" is my main criterium after some time in this forum since americans are so damn polite... In german forums there would be far less people trying to be diplomatic all the time. For this reason "it´s not talked about" gives me a lot of the information I need for a purchase. If the audio demos were ravishing I would give a damn about the opinion of others but there was not even one I could listen to to the end. By the way: I loaded and activated demos for NI Woodwinds and Brass and played with them for 3 minutes, then deleted them. I did not even install the strings then. Thats the reason I did not talk about them... And I had so much wished I could "get there" for so little money. But these are products which are , ahm..."not talked about".
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I have had experience with LASS and used it when working on projects in the past. I sit in the middle on that library when it comes to love/hate. It's not something I would consider owning as my workhorse library. Part of the reason its not in the poll. I use EastWest Hollywood Strings for a lot of stuff now but I'm no exactly thrilled with its sound. It takes quite a bit of work and is a cumbersome workflow. I've already wasted so much of my creativity time making templates for HS library.
Thank-you for helping. Will not pester this Thread in other directions, but wanting to 'avoid' exactly what you describe with E/WS HS, if at all possible. So tough now to commit in just one direction (for strings/brass/woods/perc/choir/etc) .... perhaps not practical any more.
Easy : Spitfire audio !
The only valuable question is :
who's better at getting at the moon, Paul Thomson or Christian Henson ?
I was thinking the same... I hope my legs don't breakRelevant to this thread though, if Spitfire and certain other companies who I won't name, put out some marketing videos, including a detailed walkthrough and some demos of actually trips to the moon, then all things being equal, I'm likely to trust Spitfire to actually get to the moon over certain of the others. Sure Spifire lunar travel would probably cost a little more that some of the competitors, and if, say, Embertone or Alex from CSS has a similar travel package I'm going to give those some serious thought also. But the reality is that there does exist a certain class of competitor who, while perhaps perfectly capable of getting to the moon, are going are going to sell it as a trip Jupiter and so when you arrive on the moon, you're disappointed and checking your ticket to see if you actually just paid for a trip to the moon after all, or if, had you waited for an inevitable sale, it might have been a pretty good price for a trip to the moon, as opposed to too good to be try price to get to Jupiter.
Hence my question about dynamic crossfades.