Pianistikboy
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Hi, if this can help someone, I've made a little CSS test showing the dynamics pp to ff in different registers in legato mode. No EQ, no effects, this is out of the box .
Not LASS unfortunately or that would be awesome. This is Sable.Is that LASS? I find the present tone perfect for this kind of lighthearted and agile melodies.. Tastes can vary a lot, though
For anyone wondering about the brightness compared to Hollywood Strings for example I did a rough eq match on the css violins. What you hear is Hollywood Strings Violins 1 - CSS Violins 1 EQ - CSS Violins 1 Original.
Eq curve I used is in the attachment.
So In my opinion you can get pretty close indeed to HS But I already own that library so I use the eq match on 50% to get the strings a little bit brighter
I think I prefer the one at the end with no EQ plugin to be honest.
I think I prefer the one at the end with no EQ plugin to be honest.
Nice!! Btw is the CSS legato "speed" kind of similar to HS or even faster in the respone?
Like, you play and what you hear is what you get?
Not really! If you choose to use the advanced legato you have a bunch of speeds to choose from when you program your legatos. I find it difficult to play "live" with them but with a little bit of midi editing you'll get the results you expect.
Here was the Cinematic Studio Strings video about legatos (again )
You are probably in better position to validate my above conclusion since you've actually played with both libraries.
CSS: Today, it is increasingly difficult to come out with a new strings-lib. that offers something in a compelling manner, unique, and on top plays well with the others, CSS does!
no library can have everything.
Here's an example in molto molto extremis
1) LASS - challenging to EQ and reverb (for me, anyway). But peerless in its speed. Very easy to replicate the "blur" from the original, by humanizing the MIDI separately for each divisi section.
2) Mural Vol 1 - can't keep up with the excerpt at all. IIRC the subsequent volumes of Mural have other legato options so this may not be a fair comparison.
3) EWQLSO Gold - precise and energetic, but let down by its "keyboardy" quality.
MIDI file here in case anyone else wants to give it a spin.
Oh, and here's my transcription/arrangement of Junkie XL's Mad Max theme in case anyone wants to try that.
Awesome thread
Perhaps lessons learned from seeing what other developers released and what the pros/cons were of each lib.... Mural has a great hall sound, LASS has agile transitions, CSS has a bit of both.... no library can have everything.
The simple answer to your last question, as a multi-media composer, there is not ONE client or ONE type of project. Heck - even one gig has variety in it's strings needs. Buy as many options to fill these needs as you can afford.
Yeah! I get that. People want different sounds. I guess I'm talking more about articulations and how they behave. Why can't someone, after they've recorded all their samples, sit down and write scripting that does everything? Why do you as a composer have to buy multiple libraries from multiple companies? I get that if someone wants smaller/larger sounds, dry, baked in, dark, shimmery etc, that one library can only do so much sonically. But as far as the way all the articulations perform, why can't we have it all? If this company does this articulation well, and that company that articulation, it's clear that it can be done. Why doesn't one company do them ALL well?
I guess that makes sense. Coming from more of an engineering background, one coveted compressor may behave differently than another coveted compressor, and you reach for different tools for different things.Dude, I ask that myself every morning why the heck the neighbours dog not always does shit at the same spot because I would place him a mobile toilet there. Having said that, so why is that? Well, so many things, there are different philosophies in approach of producing sampling libraries, not everybody out there is at the same level and shares the same opinion regarding string libraries and how they have to sound so the results differ from company to company, also different budgets, different targeting groups and so etc etc.., you know the neverending story? So long story short: Nobody needs to buy everything from everybody, that is at least one thing I want to clear out for you.