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RiffWraith · Senior Member

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84470

Ranietz · Senior Member

So, who will be our first crash test dummy?

Craig Sharmat · Alpha Dog Moderator

They are already here and have been beta testing. They are among us. I will certainly give it a go.

josejherring · Senior Member

I'm just dying to find out. I'll bite.

_taylor · Senior Member

Ranietz @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:42 am wrote:

So, who will be our first crash test dummy?

Right? I'm a little nervous about testing it at this point. Mainly because "It requires (and overwrites) a previous Kontakt 3.0.x installation on the same computer"
, think I'll wait a few days and see what others experience. Mr. Green

Nothing worse than software troubles in the middle of a big project.

Andreas Moisa · Senior Member

Is anybody able to download? The download site has no links where there should be some...

JB78 · Senior Member

Andreas: I got the links as soon as I logged in to my account.

Does anyone know if this will work on Tiger as well? I couldn't find any info at the NI-site.

Best regards
Jon

Pietro · Senior Member

I'm downloading right now. Anyone can say if K3.5 uses some kind of external process to store samples or something VE-like?

I'll check it out on my 32bit XP later.

- Piotr

Ranietz · Senior Member

Hmm. No download link for me either...

artsoundz · Senior Member

Ranietz @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:23 am wrote:

Hmm. No download link for me either...

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84470

log into your account and yes works for Tiger-

Although it does write over 3.x you could always redownload the original 3. and reinstall.

just go to support/updates and it's all there.

Andreas Moisa · Senior Member

I have Komplete 5, maybe that's the problem

Ranietz · Senior Member

I got Komplete 5 too. Has anyone with K5 been able to download the beta?

Waywyn · Senior Member

Just to calm down the nervous ones ...

K3.5 is running great here. It works great with Symphobia (K3 had a problem back then with the release tails) and you are able to load masses of stuff to it.

Because it is using the Kontakt memory server (MAC, dunno about Win) you are able to load up to around 32GB of system RAM (in words GIGABYTES)!!! (sorry Leo for using your three of 'em Smile

)

Also the loading of each instance was reduced to like 15MB. There is no file limit anymore, ...

I think the MAC guys don't really have to worry about 64bit.
K3.5 now can hold tons of samples, PLAY is using system RAM, so is EXS and VSL Ensemble ...

I know I was one of those guys who really dreamt for 64bit, but in the end I don't need it anymore ... I just need to finally buy more RAM.

Besides that, for me it is the first time that I am able to load and use as much as I can think of Smile

Ned Bouhalassa · VI-PRO Moderator

We can't user ReWire with it, right? Because after playing with Bidule, I've found that using IAC means dealing with a lot more latency than ReWire.

* Edit * Thinking out loud but, I figure I may as well use K3.5 in Bidule and not worry about a thing. Cool

artsoundz · Senior Member

FWIW_works well so far on my old coal fired Mac PPC quad g-5. Only 8gb ram though but nothing obviously funky yet.

Nick Batzdorf · Senior Member

Alex, I assume you're running it stand-alone?

redleicester · Senior Member

artsoundz @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:29 pm wrote:

Ranietz @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:23 am wrote:

Hmm. No download link for me either...

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84470

log into your account and yes works for Tiger-

Although it does write over 3.x you could always redownload the original 3. and reinstall.

just go to support/updates and it's all there.

Not for me either. I have Komplete 2/3/4/5 and various other bits...

"The following product versions are available for you:
(If this page is empty, there are currently no public beta versions of
your products)"

artsoundz · Senior Member

yeah- if you check the N.I.forums this seems to be an issue w/Komplete

Waywyn · Senior Member

Nick Batzdorf @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:42 pm wrote:

Alex, I assume you're running it stand-alone?

No, simply INSIDE Logic Smile

It uses system RAM as the same as e.g. VSL Ensemble does.

Nick Batzdorf · Senior Member

Kyule.

Waywyn · Senior Member

Nick Batzdorf @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:19 pm wrote:

Kyule.

Yup, very... Smile

Another cool thing is, that the Kontakt Memory Server (KMS) keeps the samples in RAM when you close the project. When you load another project using the same samples (as is happens occasionally if those samples belong to an orchestral template Smile

) K3.5 loads it up much faster.

So, since already mention, every following instance after the first just needs 15MB only, you can open like masses of instances. I think the first uses something around 50-70MB.

Also there is no file limit. You can open tons of e.g. performance legato instruments from the Opus bundle.

And finally, your RAM is the limit. If you have 16GB, you can open up as many instances until your 16GB are used.

One little hint though:
To activate the KMS, open K3.5 in standalone once, activate KMS "manual mode" from the options menu, close it and it should work in plugin mode.
If you activate KMS in plugin mode you might get an error message, telling you that the KMS was not able to start.

tmhuud · Senior Member

Nick Batzdorf @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:19 pm wrote:

Kyule.

No freakin Sh!! man. Rock on.

tripit · Senior Member

Damn, I'm downloading it right now.

dcoscina · Senior Member

me too!

Craig Sharmat · Alpha Dog Moderator

Good news Bad news

Loads up tons of stuff!

does not always play it back perfectly

am getting crackles and pops

Is this better than K2?
I don't know yet if i can play the same amount w/o snaps and crackles. Need to test more but I am concerned at the moment. I still have K2 to fall back on but I was hoping performance would be better. Maybe there are settings i could use to improve my performance.

Anyone?

tmhuud · Senior Member

Yeah - same here. ITs regular rice crispy treat party around here.

RiffWraith · Senior Member

Well, this works in Cubase 5, but not Cubase 4. Bummer. I wanted to stick with 4 because of the friggin export dial box. Same GUI problem - can't click on anything.

Craig 'n Terry - there was some message I got when opening K3.5 the first time about multi processing being turned off, or something? Not sure, but the message said it could be turned on again if need be. Have you guys had a look there?

Cheers.

JT3_Jon · Senior Member

Craig Sharmat @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:02 pm wrote:

Good news Bad news
Is this better than K2?
I don't know yet if i can play the same amount w/o snaps and crackles. Need to test more but I am concerned at the moment. I still have K2 to fall back on but I was hoping performance would be better. Maybe there are settings i could use to improve my performance.

Anyone?

I'm still on K2 and wondering the same thing. I'm also curious if it gets along better with Logic 8.0.2, as I've found using multiple instance of K2 in Logic 8.0.2 on my Dual 2.5 PPC G5 caused serious lags in Logic: http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=logic+slow&n=21&ei=utf-8&js=1&fr=yfp- t-501&tnr=20&vid=0001149178435

To get around this I had to start running K2 as standalone outside logic! I'm wondering if its save to bring it back.

dcoscina · Senior Member

Are you guys using Multi Processors? I was not getting any crackles here but it was maxing out my CPU on Logic 8 with single processor mode on. once I switched to 4 processors, the CPU meter has gone down.

kdm · Senior Member

Any chance 3.5 expanded the number of channel groups for standalone mode - e.g. more than 64 midi channels/4 ports in?

Craig Sharmat · Alpha Dog Moderator

RiffWraith @ Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:32 pm wrote:

Well, this works in Cubase 5, but not Cubase 4. Bummer. I wanted to stick with 4 because of the friggin export dial box. Same GUI problem - can't click on anything.

Craig 'n Terry - there was some message I got when opening K3.5 the first time about multi processing being turned off, or something? Not sure, but the message said it could be turned on again if need be. Have you guys had a look there?

Cheers.

Thanks, I had checked this and since i am using a plug in i had my multi processor support turned off. I am also experiencing the occasional stuck note.

I am running this as a plug in as i need to do a lot of fast bounces. It may work better in Stand Alone mode but as a plugin I am not impressed yet.

tripit · Senior Member

You guys using Leopard or Tiger?

tmhuud · Senior Member

Tiger.

Craig Sharmat · Alpha Dog Moderator

10.5.6

tripit · Senior Member

Thanks. I have both boot ups, but have stayed in Tiger for the most part. Terry, are you running it as a plugin in your daw, or are you using it stand alone or in another host and piping in?