Geoff Grace
Senior Member
It's one louder, isn't it?I tried asking about what "taking it to the next level" meant in their official thread. No response.
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Geoff
It's one louder, isn't it?I tried asking about what "taking it to the next level" meant in their official thread. No response.
You might turn that around and say at only 6.8GB it sounds far better than it has any right to, so if you need an orchestral library that is very light on resources it fills that niche very nicely.
No, I figured people in this forum would understand what I was getting at with my spiel about the glock.Ya going all Gangsta on me Tiger?
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And now that you've had a look at The Orchestra do you still think the arp engine is like Session Strings Pro?
I don't know if its been clarified here, but using the standalone kontakt player's midi-out (kontakt virtual output) you can route most midi arpeggiators and rhythm makers into your DAW. So orchestra works like this as well. Only problem is sometimes notes overlap, and for some daws overlapping notes can negate the sound, requiring some trimming. But yeah, nice to take these rhythms and run them through other libraries.
I’ve been waiting for this too. Though at the half price sale I’m still considering it.That's interesting! But just to clarify, I take it you can't output actual midi data for the arps?
I love the idea of using The Orchestra as an inspiration tool, but, for getting into the composition, ideally I'd like to be able to output the 5 'tracks' onto 5 separate tracks in my DAW, complete with all the midi data the arps and envelopes are producing... Then I could add some variation, etc... and if possible, assign some to other libaries if I wanted to.
If The Orchestra could do that I'd definitely get it!
I’ve been waiting for this too. Though at the half price sale I’m still considering it.
It's easy to record the Arps out of Kontakt (VST) in cubase or any DAW that supports VST plugin midi out.
Just mute :
Arp 2/3 to record Arp 1 to new midi track.
Arp 3/1 to record Arp 2 to a new midi track.
Arp 1/2 to record Arp 3 to a new midi track.
Thanks, but will that record the notes I’m playing, or will it record the output of the arps?
Thanks, but will that record the notes I’m playing, or will it record the output of the arps?
To clarify what I mean, the kontakt virtual output sends all the midi data of the arp out. So if you play a G chord, the arp rhythm in G would be sent out. I’ll double check but I believe this arp midi would include the velocities and dynamics as well. Only problem is as previously stated, it sends all the orchestra’s multiple Arps out as one consolidated midi track so you’d have to solo each individual arp and record them one by one. Still the end result is nice since you end up with the arp midi to use with other libraries. This works with kontakt’s session strings and horns rhythm Arps, as well as even spitfire’s Ostinatum, or most any other librarie’s similar midi based arp like LASS’s as well. The only essential thing to my knowledge is that you must run the standalone kontakt outside of your DAW with midi out “kontakt virtual output” enabled, and then set that as the input for a midi track within your daw.
That does sound useful. Do you know if/how it relates to a new feature that was added in 1.1 patch...
There's a note in the manual that says:
- [NEW FEATURE] On the mixer page, every instrument slot can now be assigned to a separate output. This makes it possible to mix and edit every individual instrument of the engine inside your DAW.
It didn't work for The Orchestra. Somehow there are a lot of excess notes that come out. At least not when I tried it. I did it in Cubase. I may try it in ProTools to see if a simpler midi editor will only pick up what is played. But I won't have time until this weekend.It's easy to record the Arps out of Kontakt (VST) in cubase or any DAW that supports VST plugin midi out.
Just mute :
Arp 2/3 to record Arp 1 to new midi track.
Arp 3/1 to record Arp 2 to a new midi track.
Arp 1/2 to record Arp 3 to a new midi track.
It didn't work for The Orchestra. Somehow there are a lot of excess notes that come out. At least not when I tried it. I did it in Cubase. I may try it in ProTools to see if a simpler midi editor will only pick up what is played. But I won't have time until this weekend.
If you watch the first set of YouTube reviews of The Orchestra, you'll see that most of the main critiques were addressed in version 1.1.
So all that needs to be done if for Sonuscore to hear from their customers (or potential customers) that drag-to-MIDI is their number one request.
But do remember that The Orchestra patches are 5 different instruments (chosen from 75 instruments/articulations), each of which can be assigned one of 3 different arps or one of two different envelopes. While you could easily drag one arp out if that feature was added, it would be more of a job to drag out the kind of multi-patches that can be put together in The Orchestra in minutes.
I get it, people want to pull out all the arps one by one and swap them with sounds they prefer. To me this misses the whole point of the Engine, which is its ability to be quickly changed in infinite ways, with different orchestral colors, octaves, envelopes, and arp patterns.